MSG 171960
Bill ( - Tue, 13 Mar 2012 18:09:54 +0000
That′s too deep for me Autumn !

I dont buy theologians who say suffering is good for the soul.

MSG 171962
Autumn ( - Fri, 16 Mar 2012 10:10:20 +0000
Well.. Maybe I am just locked up in my own definition of ′heaven′. What comes to mind is a place where things appear to be extremely pleasant and controlled. Like a thermostat or something. When I am in an environment like that (living now) after a while it feels retched. I have to excuse myself and literally meltdown.

MSG 171969
Bill ( - Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:34:30 +0000
I could play Sigmund Freud and have a shot at analysing that :-D
The key word is "appear"

MSG 171978
Autumn ( - Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:05:07 +0100
Yes... So what would Heaven appear to be to you?

MSG 171982
Bill ( - Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:55:10 +0100
Oh boy ! That′s the $64 Thousand question of all time .
The Judaeo Christian image is hard to envisage . Harps and sitting on a fluffy white cloud in a long white gown is just not on.
The Buddhist concept of an amalgamation of the Spirit is a bit more credible but the concept of dualism of the body and soul as being two distict entities is fading fast as neurophysiology marches on.
Not even sure I want to post this Autumn and part of me doesn′t even want to believe it.
( I am just as superstitious as the next man)

MSG 171983
Bill ( - Sun, 25 Mar 2012 19:56:33 +0100
And yet there is something there !

MSG 171985
marger ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 06:52:55 +0100

MSG 171986
Bill ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:24:02 +0100
"That country from whose bourne no traveller returns "

MSG 171987
Bill ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 12:29:37 +0100
There are areas in which it seems that some form of mental telepathy is active although they cannot be defined or produced to order .
Also , too many people accept and experience the existance of some sort of guiding spirit , Holy Ghost if you will ,for us to ignore that .
Hence it seems ( on purely subjective grounds) that ther is a spiritual dimension of sorts . How that connects with a "Creator " no one knows or can know.

MSG 171989
Autumn ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 13:05:16 +0100
And yet.. It appears* something is there.. Can we go beyond appearance?

MSG 171993
Bill ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:47:38 +0100
I probably used the wrong word Autumn.
Spirituality is a subjective experience and as such cannot and does not have any objective confirmation .
This allows scientists of the Dawkins school to claim it is simply fiction.
But(dl) something sujective may be real , it is just that it is personal and therefore not open to confirmation.
The answer to your question is , No we cannot go beyond "appear" although that does not mean there is nothing

MSG 171994
Bill ( - Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:48:42 +0100
Autumn , when I begin to preach , please tell me to shut up

MSG 171996
Autumn ( - Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:43:26 +0100
Imagine there′s no heaven
It′s easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people living for today

Imagine there′s no countries
It isn′t hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people living life in peace

You, you may say
I′m a dreamer, but I′m not the only one
I hope some day you′ll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people sharing all the world

You, you may say
I′m a dreamer, but I′m not the only one
I hope some day you′ll join us
And the world will live as one


MSG 171997
Bill ( - Thu, 29 Mar 2012 23:05:35 +0100
That′s good ( if a mite optimistic )

MSG 171998
Autumn ( - Fri, 30 Mar 2012 10:17:08 +0100
Well.. In a round about way I think imagine and appearance are closely tied. Heaven appears to be what we imagine.

MSG 171999
Bill ( - Fri, 30 Mar 2012 14:09:42 +0100
You′ve got it !

MSG 172002
Bill ( - Sat, 07 Apr 2012 20:08:35 +0100
And here

MSG 172064
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(a reply to MSG 171960)
MSG 172067
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(a reply to MSG 171996)
MSG 172069
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That takes us up to the next level. Great potngsi.
(a reply to MSG 172064)

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